Three ways people buy keys online
Online key purchases fall into three groups, and they carry very different risks. Knowing which one you are looking at tells you most of what can go wrong.
| What you order | What you need to supply | What arrives | What is still left to do |
|---|---|---|---|
| Key cut to code | The key code from your tag or paperwork, plus make, model and year | A cut key | Test it in every lock; program it if the bike has an immobilizer |
| Key by VIN | The VIN and proof that the bike is yours | A cut key, if the seller can obtain the code for your make | Same as above; fails if the locks have been changed |
| Uncut blank or fob shell | The right blank for your model and year | A blank with no cuts | Cutting, then programming where there is a chip |
When ordering by key code works
A key code maps to a cut pattern, so a key cut to code matches the factory spec instead of copying wear from an old key. Honda and Suzuki owner's manuals tell owners to keep the key number plate supplied with the keys because the number is needed to make a replacement. If you have that number and the bike has no immobilizer, a mail-order key cut to code is a reasonable way to get a spare.
Two conditions apply. The locks have to be the ones the code was issued for, and the seller has to use the right blank for your model. A code from the original paperwork will not fit an ignition that a previous owner replaced. If the new key works the seat and fuel cap but not the ignition, that is usually what happened.
Ordering by VIN
A VIN contains no key cuts. It only identifies the bike so that a code can be looked up in manufacturer records, and many motorcycle makers keep those records inside their dealer networks. BMW's rider's manual, for example, says replacement or extra keys can be obtained only through an authorised BMW motorcycle dealer, and that the dealer is obliged to check the legitimacy of every application.
In California, Penal Code 466.6 requires anyone who makes a vehicle ignition key from a code, or by any means other than copying an existing key, to record the requester's ID and the vehicle's registration, VIN, year, make, model and color on a signed work order kept for two years. A seller that offers a key from nothing but a VIN, with no questions about ownership, is not following the practice that California law and the manufacturers expect, and you have little recourse if the key is wrong. This is general information, not legal advice.
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Where blanks go wrong
A blank has to match the lock in several ways at once, and listings do not always make that clear. Check your model and year against the seller's fitment notes, and compare the blank's blade with your existing key before anyone cuts it.
- Blade profile and length: blanks that look alike can have different grooves and will not enter the lock
- Model year changes: the same model can change key type between generations
- Chip or no chip: a blank sold as a transponder key must carry a chip that your bike's system accepts, and listings do not always say which one is fitted
- Fob shells: a shell is only a case, so the electronics and chip from your old fob have to be moved into it, which is no help if the old fob is lost
- Cutting: some shops will not cut a blank you supply, since a miscut ruins your part, so ask first
Chip keys still need registering to the bike
This is the step most online listings leave out. On an immobilizer bike, the cuts only turn the lock. The engine starts when the bike recognizes the chip, and that means registering the key. On Hondas fitted with HISS, which is uncommon on US-market bikes, the manual says to take all keys, the key number plate and the motorcycle to a dealer for duplicates, and that up to four keys can be registered including the ones in hand. On Yamahas with the immobilizer, mostly export-market bikes, the manual says key registration needs the red code re-registering key and that if it is lost, registering a new standard key is impossible. Suzuki's manuals for immobilizer-equipped models say a key that has not been programmed for the immobilizer will not work, and that a dealer can register two keys beyond the two registered at the factory. Many Suzuki and Kawasaki models sold in the US have no immobilizer at all, even where versions built for other markets do, so confirm which you have before paying for a chip key.
Some systems are dealer only for registration. Can-Am describes its D.E.S.S. key as dealer programmable, and BMW supplies keys through its dealers. For other makes, a locksmith with the right equipment can register a key, but may not agree to program a part of unknown origin. If every key is lost, an online key cannot authorize itself, and on many models the factory fix involves replacing the engine control unit. Ask who will program the key, and whether they accept customer-supplied parts, before you order.
A checklist before you click buy
Buying the part online and paying separately for cutting and programming can cost about the same as having a key supplied, cut and programmed in one visit, so compare totals instead of the price of the blank alone.
- Find out whether your bike has an immobilizer; the owner's manual will say
- Confirm the code on your tag belongs to the locks now on the bike
- Match the blank to your exact model and year, not just the make
- Ask the seller how it checks ownership for code or VIN orders
- Line up cutting and programming first, and confirm the shop will work with your part
- Check the return policy for keys that are cut or programmed
- Count the registration slots your system allows, so an unreliable key does not use one up
Quick questions
Can I get a motorcycle key made online with just the VIN?
Only if the seller can obtain the key code for your make and the bike still has its original locks. A legitimate source will ask for proof of ownership first, and an immobilizer key will still need programming at the bike.
Will an online key start a bike with an immobilizer?
Not until it is registered to the bike. A correctly cut key will turn the ignition and open the seat and fuel cap, but the engine will not run until the system recognizes the chip.
Can I program a key I bought online myself?
It depends on the system. Your owner's manual will say whether there is an owner procedure; many makes direct you to the dealer, and some require a master key that came with the bike.
Why did my online key fit the seat but not the ignition?
The most common reason is that one of the locks was replaced at some point and no longer matches the original code. A locksmith can read the current ignition and cut a key to it, or rekey the locks to match.
Services that can help
- Motorcycle Key Duplication and Spare KeysA spare now costs far less than a lost only-key later.Details →
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Keep reading
- Can a Locksmith Make a Motorcycle Key From the VIN?Sometimes, but not directly.
- How to Find Your Motorcycle Key CodeA motorcycle key code is a short number or letter-number code that tells a locksmith or dealer how to cut a key for your locks.
- OEM vs Aftermarket Motorcycle Keys and FobsFor a plain metal key, a good aftermarket blank cut to the factory code does the same job as a factory key.
- Motorcycle Immobilizers Explained: HISS, KIPASS and MoreA motorcycle immobilizer is an anti-theft system that only lets the engine start when it recognizes a coded chip in the key or a paired fob.
- When to Get a Spare Motorcycle Key, and Why NowGet a spare motorcycle key as soon as you are down to one working key.
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Sources
- https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1157787/Honda-Xl700v.html?page=73
- https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1088188/Suzuki-Dl650a.html?page=17
- https://www.manualslib.com/manual/2904464/Yamaha-Xsr900.html?page=25
- https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1218489/Bmw-R-1200-Rt.html?page=38
- https://can-am.brp.com/off-road/us/en/owners/your-vehicle/vehicle-information/dess-learning-key.html
- https://california.public.law/codes/ca_penal_code_section_466.6
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